-Diablo's Journal, 08 May 18

If it wasn't so amazing, how did you allow it to get you to 450 pounds? If you've conquered your hunger why do you have to incorporate IF and low carb foods to maintain your weight loss? 

Also, I am not trying to say IIFYM is the answer the way you're saying keto is the answer. The image itself shows many options. None is better than the other, they all come down to personal preference. 

Sugar is addictive. I prefer IF and low carb, it's intuitive to my lifestyle . Any other questions (or personal attacks)? Just keep eating amazing (lmao) food, until you develop T2, don't think you can't just because you haven't yet.  

I'm not saying keto is THE answer. It's absolutely the right path for some people, but not all people. Some people just can't give up that, "amazing" food. I'm flexible enough in my dieting that I've found other foods that are just as amazing, if not more so. The dieter is the one that needs to be flexible, not the diet.  

Sugar is not addictive. Drugs are. T2 while being in great shape and watching my calories? Very doubtful. 

Anything can be counter productive if it’s causing someone to not reach their fitness goals, be it weight loss, weight gain, or maintenance. I agree completely, Keto is of course a great diet for people who don’t want to/care to count calories. It works well because it’s a very simple approach, but just like every other diet relying on the same thing, restriction/control/portioning, to some degree, which causes change either directly or indirectly, without calorie counting or caring at all, will produce the same results, either in weight loss or gain. Well Keto helps restrict/control carbohydrate intake, eat higher fat and protein. You can eat a lot more vegetables for the same calorie amounts than carbohydrate foods, like fruit, regardlesss if it’s seen as “healthy/unhealthy” because veggies are all very low in carbs/calories. Plus the water/fiber content, add those together, will be far more filling/satisfying than a cup of fruit for the same amount. Higher protein, more filling, plus the highest thermic effect of food attributes even more help with burning calories. Carb control= less cravings, less cravings= less chance to eat over calorie amounts. Higher filling foods= more filling/satisfying= less chance to eat over calories. Restricting carb intake= restricting calorie intake= less chance to eat over calories. Add all that together, you have a structured diet, that helps with consistency, restriction, portion, control. The majority of people will fill up eating those foods much sooner, & feel full enough, to not indulge in overeating. But, if someone on keto or whatever “diet” eats too much of X food, it’ll still act the same way. You can eliminate carbs completely, and protein too, just have 10 sticks of butter a day, call that the “butter diet” see look I just made up a diet! So easy! but guarantee it won’t cause weight loss... until, you only eat 1 stick of butter a day. Hell let’s make it the “Cheezit Diet” and only eat 25 Cheezit crackers a day! But if you eat 3 boxes a day, then the diet won’t work and cause weight gain! See! It’s SUPER Easy to make up a diet & still cause people to lose weight, just as it is to gain weight. Dieting isn’t hard, at all, when it’s easy to stick to of course! But yes, It gets misconstrued and overly complicated for no reason. As simple as “keep eating less until you see weight loss.” Or “keep eating more until you see weight gain” Insert any foods/drinks amounts, times, you want to eat or the manner in eating them, and controlling/restricting/portioning, your own “diet” preferences, will cause the outcomes of your choosing. Furthermore, food doesn’t even matter, in this link here. Guy just eats nothing & drinks water 28 days. (See below) So you can say “calories don’t matter” well, in this example they don’t, except, the context of them “mattering” isn’t the fact they don’t matter by consumption or lack thereof. They only “matter” if they’re causing someone to gain weight (fat primarily) for the wrong reasons, they only “matter” if they’re not consumed enough to cause muscle gain. They don’t “matter” when someone loses weight when not “tracking/counting” because if that’s your goal why should they? They don’t “matter” when someone builds muscle, because why should they care? Obviously, you don’t If the amount you’re consuming is working towards your benefit, regardless of counting/tracking/portioning/controlling/restricting, or lack thereof. Or “CICO doesn’t work” well, it’s not that it doesn’t “work”, it’s not the same thing as “cal counting” either. Your metabolism is doing CICO whether you chose to say you “are or aren’t”. It’s constantly using calories in the body to gain/lose/maintain weight & keep your body functioning. Without metabolism, calories wouldn’t mature & people would never have any weight gain or loss thresholds, therefore, nobody would ever get fat or lose weight or build muscle in any large/small/no amounts, we would all be able to do all those things easily since we wouldn’t have any “limit” of calories as our bodies do. Anyways, This video shows food “doesn’t matter”, “calories don’t matter”, https://youtu.be/2op1t1xNuVg in this video his body fat is lost, because of no calories consumed “calories out” aka “caloric deficit”, body fat is stored calories, well without anything “calories in”, to maintain/gain weight, the only place left for them to go, is out. That’s when the metabolism comes into play. Not enough calories to maintain weight well guess what happens then? The body uses its body fat stores to essentially “supplement” the body with calories, manipulate them into carbs/protein/fats to function & keep you alive, therefore, body fat gets lost. As long as, enough of it is there to be lost, & not muscle as a secondary source. So do “calories matter”?.. no, they don’t, except when they do... it’s all a manner of context. There are plenty of days I don’t bother counting calories, but I know my calorie limit enough so weekly, I still know how much of X food/drink/etc I can eat without bothering with it, & hit my weekly loss or gain. So to me in that context, calories “don’t matter” nor do I care about them at all, but I also know what I’m doing, & my limits, so I’m “indirectly” causing a deficit by Controlling, restricting, portioning, to the degree that causes the change I want. Which is exactly the same thing with keto, so no calories don’t matter at all, when everything is done in a manner to your preferences/needs/goals that causes change you want, regardless of how you choose to do it, or the manner it’s done in. 

How is being able to eat what you want while being in great shape, not a sign that a dieter is flexible? Enlighten me how you're more flexible than me. 

That was a pretty long post, but well worth reading. DP1-5.  

Why is this a personal competition, D3x? Being able to eat whatever you want merely makes you gluttonous, even if you're not overeating. Show a little dam self-control, man.  

Gluttony=excessive eating. Try again. 

It's ok to be jealous though. Saying I don't have self-control because I don't want to be on a training wheel diet for the rest of my life. Ok. My body composition is suffering so much because of my lack of self-control(not). 

I'm not jealous, there's absolutely nothing to be jealous of. You seriously need to stop disseminating that false CICO bullcorn.  

I also like how you call Deadpool's post good when it says that calories are what matter but continue to call them fairy farts. Good talk. 

Oh, you're deleting comments now? lol Just go ahead and delete all of mine, then. lol 

Just so you know, that's pretty much how everyone else feels when you post your soapbox malarkey comments on their posts. lol 

I was thinking about deleting our whole discussion tonight since it added nothing to the OP. You're just trolling. Maybe next time I'll just send up my Deadpool signal to get you to come to your senses. lol 

Go ahead, I don't mind. I screen capped the bits I wanted to save and share with others. hahaha 

Maybe go and get your masters in nutrition next so you can learn how it works. 

Results matter. I've got them. No need to be jealous.  

.....:). Still trolling, I see.